Minnesota Focus Owners Club

KRYPTO wrote:......Talk all the shit you want, If I really wanted to, I could make 600hp and make it hook up. All I would have to do is put my spare 351W in it with my 9" and show all you up!!

If you cant help me with finding wire, then dont reply!!

I'm NOT talking shit, I am CALLING you out. there's a difference. I'm NOT personally attacking you but I am calling out!!!! about the fact you claim your gonna be putting down 400hp, and now your saying 600hp.... hahaha thanks for the laugh.

BTW check out the OK Focus ZX351, he has to put 500lbs of sand bags into the back of his car, with a full tank of gas (15 gallon fuel cell) and btw the W isn't as powerful as the C (Cleavland), it'd take a hell of a lot to make a Windsor to make 600hp N/A.

Keep on pouring out the BS, just keeps getting better and better after every post.

- Josh

Edit: Correction, OK Focus guy used a Windsor, my bad.

umdivx wrote:

KRYPTO wrote:......Talk all the shit you want, If I really wanted to, I could make 600hp and make it hook up. All I would have to do is put my spare 351W in it with my 9" and show all you up!!

If you cant help me with finding wire, then dont reply!!

I'm NOT talking shit, I am CALLING you out. there's a difference. I'm NOT personally attacking you but I am calling out!!!! about the fact you claim your gonna be putting down 400hp, and now your saying 600hp.... hahaha thanks for the laugh.

BTW check out the OK Focus ZX351, he has to put 500lbs of sand bags into the back of his car, with a full tank of gas (15 gallon fuel cell) and btw the W isn't as powerful as the C (Cleavland), it'd take a hell of a lot to make a Windsor to make 600hp N/A.

Keep on pouring out the BS, just keeps getting better and better after every post.

- Josh

Edit: Correction, OK Focus guy used a Windsor, my bad.

Just a few things.....

You just have to build the windsor to spin a bit faster and you end up with more HP.
http://www.airflowresearch.com/ford_dyno.php

Second of all, I thought Tom claimed to be over 500 hp. Also dragfocus was close to 600 (claimed) with a zetec (dry sump and all of that shit, full FWD drag car with slicks). Also, see this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po1VMeu0KA0

I think you have been out of the loop for too long.



And 400 hp is still very useable (as a dyno queen). But it looks like widebody with a bit more rubber is the way to go.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1&hl=en-CA

Here you go everyone who says it cant be done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zurno wrote:Just a few things.....

You just have to build the windsor to spin a bit faster and you end up with more HP.
http://www.airflowresearch.com/ford_dyno.php

That isn't a Windsor, thats the 302, with different bores, which is a totaly different beast all together.

Second of all, I thought Tom claimed to be over 500 hp. Also dragfocus was close to 600 (claimed) with a zetec (dry sump and all of that shit, full FWD drag car with slicks). Also, see this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po1VMeu0KA0

Find examples, correct me, I love being proven wrong, I don't have an issue with it, I am just going off the top of my head here. And I've never seen/heard Dragfocus so can't comment on that, but I do know there was a huge up roar about the numbers Tom was claiming with his car and he never proved it.

I think you have been out of the loop for too long.

Far from it, I just care NOT to be in it.... Thread like this on FJ, FF, CF are the reasons why I don't hang out too much on the forums, this ones local so its different.

ok so i've been corrected, I'd still love to see you pull off that kind of money to put down that kind of power. The Fasttrax focus was put together by deep pocketed folks/company, no way can you pull that off if your driving a focus in the place, if you had that kind of money you wouldn't be driving a focus at all, and a dyno queen isn't a streetable car, huge difference, i'd love to see someone drive that as daily driver, you should know that with your car.

Also krypto 360hp isn't 400

- Josh

umdivx wrote:

zurno wrote:Just a few things.....

You just have to build the windsor to spin a bit faster and you end up with more HP.
http://www.airflowresearch.com/ford_dyno.php

That isn't a Windsor, thats the 302, with different bores, which is a totaly different beast all together.

Second of all, I thought Tom claimed to be over 500 hp. Also dragfocus was close to 600 (claimed) with a zetec (dry sump and all of that shit, full FWD drag car with slicks). Also, see this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po1VMeu0KA0

Find examples, correct me, I love being proven wrong, I don't have an issue with it, I am just going off the top of my head here. And I've never seen/heard Dragfocus so can't comment on that, but I do know there was a huge up roar about the numbers Tom was claiming with his car and he never proved it.

I think you have been out of the loop for too long.

Far from it, I just care NOT to be in it.... Thread like this on FJ, FF, CF are the reasons why I don't hang out too much on the forums, this ones local so its different.

ok so i've been corrected, I'd still love to see you pull off that kind of money to put down that kind of power. The Fasttrax focus was put together by deep pocketed folks/company, no way can you pull that off if your driving a focus in the place, if you had that kind of money you wouldn't be driving a focus at all, and a dyno queen isn't a streetable car, huge difference, i'd love to see someone drive that as daily driver, you should know that with your car.

Also krypto 360hp isn't 400

- Josh

I almost bought a CGI block from dragfocus, and wanted a fiberglass hatch that I didnt win.


The 302 and 351w are in the same engine family if I remember correctly, kinda like a D20/D23. I was more or less pointing out how well you can do with that engine family. The modern after market has been good to the old small block Ford.


True with that 360 is not 400. Especially when it is a G metered 360 flywheel hp, how accurate would that be I wonder?

Also krypto 360hp isn't 400

- Josh[/quote]

Its 360hp ATW It dont matter if I have 200 or 400 if I gear it right.

And all you with the V8 blah blah blah. I build V8's I know how/what I'm talking about.

KRYPTO wrote:
Its 360hp ATW It dont matter if I have 200 or 400 if I gear it right.

Read above, Zurno is spot on, G metered numbers don't mean squat. Hell dyno's are barely accurate most of the time.

And all you with the V8 blah blah blah. I build V8's I know how/what I'm talking about.

I'm sure.... with enough money, and parts anything is possible.... But you don't seem to graps the basic knowledge that a 2800lbs car like the focus is not a great platform to be working with. It takes alot of work, $$$$$$, and time to do a RWD V8 conversion, and 600hp in a focus with RWD would be way worse than a 400hp FWD setup on the focus.

The focus is a great car, its great for twisties, road cone courses, and especially made to be economical, you wanna say "i'm gonna do 400whp blah blah blah..... or V8, 600hp, RWD, blow you away.... blah blah blah" go right ahead, but I'll still be here calling you out till the day it happens (which most likely won't)

There's ONLY a few ppl that actually have gone through with what they've said, and that doesn't even fill up one hand yet.

So you go on cluckin big chicken, and i'll sit here peckin away, laughing along like always.

Like I said before I'm NOT trying to be an ASS, it may come off that way, and like I said, I call it as I see it, I'm a naysayer, I call out BS when I see it, but I'll also be the first one to admit when I am wrong and correct myself when needed.

So there you go, prove me wrong, instead of going on and on and on, about this and that.

- Josh (aka the Realist)

Krypto wants this locked.

To voice my Personal Opinion, I'm with Josh on this one....