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Fuel pump
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:31 pm
by Louis Zerr
Well, i did it. I did a little bit of boosting last sunday and then the car started to stutter and stall. I pulled over and it ran but very poorly. I pulled off the fuel like on the fuel rail and saw a trickle of fuel instead of a blast of fuel. seems like my fuel pump is dead. who knows about proper upgrades and such for a fuel pump. Possibly a return set up? (Jeff?) i want a little reliability. I woudl also like to see what 15 psi looks like.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:52 pm
by CleanZX3
stock fuel pump is good for some HP.
Just get it re-placed under the recall. I did, turbo and all.
Morries minnetonka ford is awesome.
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:29 pm
by Louis Zerr
I don't want it touched by anyone but me, just like my wang. No wait, that's not right. I don't want to have it towed to the dealer, PITA. When i can push it 3 feet into the garage.
Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 10:51 pm
by CleanZX3
hmmm, call them up, tell them what happend, ask if they can just give you the parts. lol.
I would just get a stock pump for now.
Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:23 am
by trahma
The fuel pump recall was only till 2001, the 02's weren't affected by the recall supposedly even though they didn't redesign the pump until 2003.
Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:18 am
by Doughboy
Hey Rod, I still have the BBK fuel pump I was planning on puting in my car if you want to buy it. It's never been opened. I'll have to grab the model number off it so you can get the details. I'm pretty sure it was 170 lph. I never installed it because it would require some slight modification to the fuel canister to make it work. If you want it I'm sure we can work something out.
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 11:43 am
by Louis Zerr
Let's talk bro, i am wondering what type of modifications and such. It sucks to have my car not working again.

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:32 pm
by Louis Zerr
the deed is done, after putting in the new friggen fuel pump it still would not start. i then bought a compression tester (should have done this first) and #4 has 0 compression. I think i sucked a valve. The turbo kit is coming off for good and i am gonna try doing something different. Too bad i lowered my compression. The head will be off over the next couple of days though. I am really pissed off at my car and can't wait to just drive the god damn thing!!!!
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:59 pm
by CleanZX3
Louis Zerr wrote:
the deed is done, after putting in the new friggen fuel pump it still would not start. i then bought a compression tester (should have done this first) and #4 has 0 compression. I think i sucked a valve. The turbo kit is coming off for good and i am gonna try doing something different. Too bad i lowered my compression. The head will be off over the next couple of days though. I am really pissed off at my car and can't wait to just drive the god damn thing!!!!
Hey, kinda like me!
shave the head, and get some cams maybe?
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:05 pm
by Louis Zerr
^^you said it bro, i am only hoping that after i get the head off that there is no hole in my piston.
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:59 am
by Steve@Tasca
Jumping in kind of late I know but the pumps were redisigned in '02.
Early '02's have the recall style pump and late '02's have the newer style.
why turbo when positive displacement is better
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:07 pm
by focinite
you should think about a kennbell boostapump for your problem and put boost back on just put a inter cooled centrifical charger on insted of the-maybe fast turbo- i personaly enjoy some boost all the time insted of alot of boost at the middle of the rpm range then grenading the motor becuse my fuel system cant keep up then the 25psi(jk) of boost . with the jackson racing setup and 11-13 psi ken bell boost-a-pump pro m maf ,29 lbs injectos and intake and exhaust mods you should see about 200to 225 front wheel horse withe a table flat turque line at 150 ft/lbs
Re: why turbo when positive displacement is better
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:59 am
by CleanZX3
focinite wrote:
you should think about a kennbell boostapump for your problem and put boost back on just put a inter cooled centrifical charger on insted of the-maybe fast turbo- i personaly enjoy some boost all the time insted of alot of boost at the middle of the rpm range then grenading the motor becuse my fuel system cant keep up then the 25psi(jk) of boost . with the jackson racing setup and 11-13 psi ken bell boost-a-pump pro m maf ,29 lbs injectos and intake and exhaust mods you should see about 200to 225 front wheel horse withe a table flat turque line at 150 ft/lbs
ahhhhh...... no.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:41 am
by Louis Zerr
boost-a-pumps don't work with a returnless fuel system. Yes my car has run over 25psi. 29 lb injectors are way too small for a focus running 10 psi let, i have 42 lb injectors. I saw about 221whp and 250 lb-ft at 4000 rpm. i know those that have vortech and nitrous and they still couldn't touch my power unless they were running 16psi and then i just turn up the boost. oh and i was only running 8psi out of a t3/t4 turbo. CFM is your friend
Re: why turbo when positive displacement is better
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:25 am
by trahma
focinite wrote:
you should think about a kennbell boostapump for your problem and put boost back on just put a inter cooled centrifical charger on insted of the-maybe fast turbo- i personaly enjoy some boost all the time insted of alot of boost at the middle of the rpm range then grenading the motor becuse my fuel system cant keep up then the 25psi(jk) of boost . with the jackson racing setup and 11-13 psi ken bell boost-a-pump pro m maf ,29 lbs injectos and intake and exhaust mods you should see about 200to 225 front wheel horse withe a table flat turque line at 150 ft/lbs
The JRSC isn't a centrifugal supercharger. Also I don't know where you're finding 29lb injectors, but the cost difference between 30lb injectors and 42lb injectors is less than $30. Why not just pay extra to have the injectors you need, you're the one talking about running out of fuel. A Pro-M MAF can't be calibrated anymore. The stock Focus fuel pump is fine and why you would install a boost-a-pump to achieve 225whp is beyond me.
A turbo is going to yield more torque than hp on a Focus. Yes you dont have peak power to the top of your power band but you're still going to outrun a supercharged Focus. There are some advantages to a supercharger over a turbo, but power in general isn't one of them.
I'd also love to see someone break 200whp on a JRSC. There's a select few that have pulled this off. I'm not trying to be a dick but most of us have been working on our cars for years, because you're a Ford tech and decided to start modding your Focus means nothing to us. We've already done plenty of research, and spent plenty of time wrenching on each others cars. We could disassemble a Focus and reassemble it, the scary thing is we could probably do it in a weekend.